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05-03-2010, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by croozza
As true as those figures may be, we are not talking about gas tanks for your vehicle, it is about portable gas bottles, with a maximum 9kg capacity, and how they can be transported in your vehicle, yes they can still explode with devistating conciquences, but no one has been able to find the laws for each state as of yet, hopefully someone will.
I remember last year on the news, seeing a bottle explode in the back of a falcon wagon, fortunately he got out with little injury, but the risk is still there and we need to find the laws and correct locations for gas bottles, after all we all do camping and it can be a bit hard to cook without gas and there are fire bans in place.
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We also hear of the ocasional caravan fire/explosion too.
It's all about reducing the the risks, most gas bottles IMHO would leak from tap opening slightly while in transit.(Hence I block mine and mount it externaly).
I was told at a camping show that you must dissconect gas lines from the bottle/s while traviling(law).
It would be could to know the laws for each state as croozza said.
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05-03-2010, 07:30 PM
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It is food for thought - that's for sure. We've opted to carry them on the roof, if for no other reason, room inside the cab is already quite tight. But I would be interested in knowing the legalities on carrying long distance portable gas bottles, so if anyone is bored at work one day...... 
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05-03-2010, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ln65er
I dis-like carring gas but sometimes you have to, just remember gas is heavier than normal air and it sinks to the bottom at your feet level, under your nose and is very explosive under the right conditions. A person I knew travelled to the cape in QLD and decided to play with fittings on a gas tank 8 meters from an open fire and ended up exploding between his legs and yes his groin and legs are very burnt. From what he told me he has to wear pressure bandages for a long time. he,s lucky to be alive, its well over a couple of hours to get back to the closest hospital. Its easy to forget how dangerous it is. you can also loose fingers if you are un aware that it can freeze them and give you frost bite ,if you have a major leak and put your hand in front of it
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I hear you,i don't like carrying a gas bottle in my car either!  Unless i have to.
Even at times i don't like filling up my car with lpg,It freaks me,especially
when my family is in the car.   
I have seen a 'couple' of cars explode with car gas tanks (one in Sydney & another in Perth) it looked like a bomb went off.  
& yes you have to watch out for that gas escape,gas freeze is not good!!
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06-03-2010, 08:00 AM
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it would not surprise me if the guide lines are found for gas bottle transportation, they will general and contradict themselves anyway.
It may be we just have to acceptable there is a risk however slight, and just do our best and try and be practical with them.
Externally maks sense, but they may become projectiles, internally is easier but may become a bomb.
In Brisbane, one car a day on average catches on fire, but it doesn't make the news, but it won't matter where the gas bottle is.
Does anyone know a certified gas installer for vehicles, they will know.
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08-03-2010, 11:34 AM
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There will be a code of practice for lpg gas, as said before it will lead you round and round in circles . You have to buy it from the government and is only a guide and very complex when used in courts. oh yea it can be changed or up dated many times
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08-03-2010, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ln65er
There will be a code of practice for lpg gas, as said before it will lead you round and round in circles . You have to buy it from the government and is only a guide and very complex when used in courts. oh yea it can be changed or up dated many times
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That sounds about right. Why would they word it so everyone can understand it - might just put them out of work 
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09-03-2010, 09:08 AM
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been thinking about this for a while now and I think I may have thought of a solution to the tap opening up while in transit, there needs to be a lock of some sort that is a tight fit around the tap and then locks to the hole they use to access the filling screw. Has anybody seen one of these or do I need to invent it.
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09-03-2010, 12:34 PM
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You can buy gas tight plugs and caps for both POL and the smaller male and female threaded bottle taps, they are cheap and you do not need tools to fit them.
A good camping store should have them, maybe even a BBQ store.
Cheap peace of mind really.
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12-03-2010, 09:52 PM
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Gas bottles
Hey all,
I think let common sense prevail.Most caravans/camper trailers have external bottles,simple fact.If there is a leak it will bleed out into the air,rather than a confined space,confined space being the issue.So go the roof rack,as long as it is secured properly as in a metal retaining ring.Rather than ocky straps.Just seems simple to me.
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