09-01-2008, 05:10 AM
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LED light questions
Hey guys i have decided to upgrade my lights to LED (not headlights)....
My parkers and interior lights i have sussed but what about the indicators? the front and rear indicators in normal filament style have a fair amount of resistance but LED lights don't? i have read somewhere that you need to change your flasher relay to a LED flasher relay this will bring the flashes back in time (somewhere between 60 - 100 flashes per minute)
does anyone know much about this stuff? also do you need a special LED globe for tail lights as they have two filaments in normal globes?
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10-01-2008, 01:47 PM
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LED lights have much less resistance than traditional filament-type bulbs. You don't need special LED flashers, as you can get LED bulbs with resistors, that act as a ballast, otherwise you can fit resistors yourself.
The dual-light bulbs in the back use dual-level LED lights (Full bright with brakes on, half bright with just the tail lights)
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10-01-2008, 01:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shaunx
Hey guys i have decided to upgrade my lights to LED (not headlights)....
My parkers and interior lights i have sussed but what about the indicators? the front and rear indicators in normal filament style have a fair amount of resistance but LED lights don't? i have read somewhere that you need to change your flasher relay to a LED flasher relay this will bring the flashes back in time (somewhere between 60 - 100 flashes per minute)
does anyone know much about this stuff? also do you need a special LED globe for tail lights as they have two filaments in normal globes?
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I have a 1985 Toyota Landcruiser HJ60, and I was looking into LED lights for it. There was no mention that the flasher had to be changed. Are you going to try and make your own, or buy them as a complete kit. I am going to get the complete kit. This way I dont have to do anything, just bolt on and use. These LED lights were in parkers, blinkers and stoplights, and front parkers/blinkers. They were a direct replacement. The stop/tail lights dont have a dual filament/LED's, they get brighter when the stop light goes on.
Hope this helps....
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10-01-2008, 01:56 PM
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The kits come with the lights already ballasted to about the same as a filament light, so they're the best way to go
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10-01-2008, 02:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jgcertified
The kits come with the lights already ballasted to about the same as a filament light, so they're the best way to go
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Definitely the way to go, all the hard work is done for you... All you have to do is screw them in, hook the up, and away you go.
They are made for nearly most makes and models, and as aftermarket items, are generally not too badly priced, comparable to oem!  
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17-01-2008, 09:02 PM
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You can buy resistors from supercheap for this purpose, i had to get one when we fitted the led blinkers to our pathy.
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13-11-2008, 05:50 PM
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I was talking to RACQ technical dept recently and they mentioned that changing from normal lamps to LED ones wasn't legal as the law hasn't caught up with it. LED should have same or simular light output. Philips released a halogen lamp for reversing which is great which I presently use.
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13-11-2008, 06:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bmurray2250
I was talking to RACQ technical dept recently and they mentioned that changing from normal lamps to LED ones wasn't legal as the law hasn't caught up with it. LED should have same or simular light output. Philips released a halogen lamp for reversing which is great which I presently use.
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Then half the trucks in Australia are driving around unroadworthy. There are stacks of newer version LED lamps around now that are vastly improved over the earlier versions: Bright Light Auto Parts - LED Replacment Globes
I've got these on my Patrol and they work a treat.
Cheers
Ray
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13-11-2008, 06:09 PM
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I agree it is a silly issue. I will replace my lamps with LED when thy fail next. Would change to HID if someone can confirm it will not melt the reflectors.
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13-11-2008, 06:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bmurray2250
I agree it is a silly issue. I will replace my lamps with LED when thy fail next. Would change to HID if someone can confirm it will not melt the reflectors.
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They're no good for headlights, only where you use standard low-wattage bulbs, like indicators and interior lighting. Now if you were driving a VDub, then you'd be laughing.
HID headlight conversions are currently illegal unless design approved ie factory fit. The situation with driving lights is a bit more flexible.
Cheers
Ray
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